[Vynd]

While I understand the sentiments of the people who want to just get on with this game already, I think you're overlooking a serious problem: Graeme, I think Zapmeister, and quite possibly others, don't want to play anymore. Better to restart without them, I think, than continue as is, have them drop out, and end up with lots of AI players right out of the gate.

Nor do I think it is particularly unreasonable of people to decide they don't want to play with Norfleet after hearing about this other incident. He lied. He behaved unsportingly. He abused other people's trust. People have every right to be upset about that sort of behavior and decide not to associate with someone who engages in it. Really, it's only to be expected. And even for folks like me who had no stake in this Fire and Ice game, it makes it rather difficult to trust the man.