[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:


But even in moderation.... Take -3cold, -3luck and -3magic. Not bad if you dont plan to fight at home. Could even be defensive. That can get you 9/9/6 or 9/9/4/2 or 9/9/2/2/2/2 if you want to put her to work doing alittle searching. Alot will give you 9fire/9water like Ghost King or Manticore. Moloch will give you 9 fire, 9 water, and 5 somewhere else. Either the red or blue dragon will give 9fire/9water/4something. Throw in -1death and AllFather can give you 9fire/9water beside the 2 magics he starts off with. Also -1death will let the infamous VQ give 9fire/9water. With Phoenix you can even take back a scale point.

Hmm interesting picture Gandelf.

I am playing Vans right now in my MP game, with Odin and 9 water blessing. I have water 9 air 3 death 3; order 3 sloth 3 cold 1 misfortune 3.


-3 magic for Vanheim? Ouch. IMHO their reseach sucks even with neutral scales, with -3 magic it would be virtually not existant. Sure, you'll be realying on rush and national units, but you have to have _some_ reseach.

IMHO sloth 3 would be significatly better than -3 magic in your picture, since production of Vans doesn't take many resourses anyway.


Also 3 Cold is kindof nasty (instead of 1 cold default) - vans armies require a lot gold to recruit and maintain, and -3 cold means -10% gold income, in addition to hurting not cold-resistant troops during the battle.


Since the supply for vans is not a problem (pigs) perhaps it would be better to take -2 Cold -2 Death instead of -3 Cold -1 Death?


On the other hand having 9 fire 9 water perhaps could put Vans troops on pair with best summoned troops. Just thinking about all these Vans and valkyeres, with 9 water quickness and protection and 9 fire blessing can put a smile on the face... And you still have very good flying SC with such setup. So do you think it would be worth it in MP game or is it too extreme?

[ May 17, 2004, 00:35: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]