[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Stormbinder:
Bull****. You can kill VQ again and again and again, but it will be back immideatly just as strong (or stronger) as before, as long it is her dominion. (and with temples in every province it is always her dominion).

And every time this happens, she loses another castle and temple.

Even if you win an offensive battle against her, you are risking of losing large part of your army in each successeful battle against her, or being totally annihilated. The max benefits that you can get from wining against her - is one crappy castle. Losing one castle is nothing when you have castles in every province.

Look. I've taken on an SG Ermor with a fair level of castle spam and a VQ that was being regularly lobbed at me, inside its own dominion. Hey, thanks for the castles, buddy!

And "losing a large part of your army"? You're joking, right? I don't call 5 Seraphs, a pair of Bane Lords, and an Air Queen a "large part of my army". I don't call 0 losses "losing".

To compare VQ to SC banelord is just plain stupid.

SC Banelords can take down a VQ, particularly a poorly equipped one, if they attack quickly and aggressively. Even if you don't care to pit one head-to-head against the enemy's fully-equipped VQ, the fact of the matter is that you can cover more ground with SC Banelords than you can with a VQ. Think battleships, cruisers, and destroyers.

AllFather, Natataraje, etc are strong SCs (and btw unlike VQ they are unique). But they are not immortal, so once they die even once they are crippled due to losing magic pathes that made them efficient.

So don't die. Ain't rocket science.

They also risk taking battle injuries in each and every battle while they would be trying to defend "castled" dominion. VQ risk nothing.

The Arco Nataraja is as proof against afflictions as any VQ, due to the healing priestesses. Anyone can get GoH, Chalice, Fairy Queens.

Norfleet is just trying to turn facts upside down in his usual manner. Playing "mad castling" with Natataraje for example is brittle , since once your pretender dead or crippled your resistanse is significantly weakened. Playing it with VQ is an opposite of that.

Got a mad castling game going with a Nataraja just fine. Got a mad castling game going with a freaking W9 Blue Dragon that I don't even use as an SC and has never left the freaking capitol. You don't need to use your pretender as an SC to play castles + Point defense SCs. Had a mad castling game going with a rainbow Archmage. Had another mad castling game going with an immobile Monolith.

Face it: The mad castling has little or nothing to do with a VQ pretender: Hell, I don't even always have to use SCs at all to defend my castling: Seraph Wrathing teams work just as well. Different strokes, different folks.

In fact, as my strategy and grasp has improved, I've been using the VQ less and less lately, rarely pitting it in combat against actual human players, instead spending most of my time summoning Air Queens, Ice Devils, and soforth. Gives you more mobility and better point-defense. Nonetheless, the burnination continues. Now I just keep her around because VQs are such great distractions: People like you will get so utterly fixated on her that you miss the bigger picture.

[ May 26, 2004, 20:53: Message edited by: Norfleet ]