June 3rd, 2004, 03:01 PM
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Re: Death & Blood a little borked?
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Originally posted by Stormbinder:
Heh, for the peace enforcing moderator you tend to get nasty very easly Zen. I've said "correct me if I am wrong", did I? No need for the insults.
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I did correct you. Forgive me if I have to seem to hammer points home with you, from your Posts in the past you have a distinct lack of understanding of other peoples PoV.
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I have no problem with memory, thank you very much.
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If you say so. I believe it's what is called "Selective Memory" and it affects us all.
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And I remeber what you told me about VQ and Liches. However I am surprised that you are saying that priceworthness have nothing to do with combat effectivness, when in fact they are clearly related.
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Related how? A "Comparison of Lich vs VQ" and a change based on points may be construed as combat effectiveness. But the reason it was changed was not because of it's combat effectiveness, which ultimately will not change for the VQ itself. But rather it was a clear "No-brainer" that for every instance where you would consider a Lich, the VQ always won because of it's price/ability ratio. True, you don't see many Liches going toe-to-toe in a SC role (I believe this is an issue with the Liches, not the VQ being better) but now the Liches are less 'outclassed' by a factor of points for any number of Pretender Builds (Rainbows, Blessings, etc).
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If you take any strong SC chassis and give it 0 base chassis and 10 new path price, you'll make it more priceworthy. And the same time you will increase its combat effectiveness, since now for the same price you can make more powerfull pretender (relatively to any other pretender for the same price).
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To a degree you are correct in the fact that it's more 'powerful' but not more combat effective. If you've ever used a lich, I doubt it's been a hand to face type of Pretender (his strengths fall in another Category). Whereas I can tell that you've used a VQ for exactly that. A Pretender with 3 Death and 1 Water is much more combat effective than a Pretender with 3 Death, 3 Blood, and 1 Astral. One is obviously more magically powerful, but the other is less 'combat effective'.
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Anyway I am not really interested in the main subject of this thread, I just wanted to clarify your position on the VQ issue after it was mentioned here, since it was not clear to me from your "for and against" post, which you now did, thanks.
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No Problem.
[ June 03, 2004, 14:03: Message edited by: Zen ]
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