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To bring a Moloch up to fire 9, dominion 6 costs you only 285 points. To do the same with the Phoenix costs 408 points.

Thanks for demonstrating that the Moloch was the cheapest chassis for a fire-9 base. I'm sure there were a few monkeys who didn't catch it. Thanks to this observation, I believe the debate is over. The Moloch is fine.

You will eventually reach the point in just about any game where a single SC will be unable to deal with the armies your opponent's can put together. At that point, you will be bringing an army along with him anyways. Otherwise he'll just be taken out by a four or five castings of ghost riders.

Wonderful observation. I wasn't aware that a single unit wasn't the answer to all the game's problems. Since this revelation, I guess the Moloch is fine.

Not at all, since items give him everything he needs. Blood thorn, lucky coin, starshine skullcap, copper plate/cold dragon armour, quickness boots, lightning ring/frost ring, regen ring. After all, the archdevils don't need anything other than those items.

Thank you for clarifying the importance of items. I wasn't aware that flying humanoid meant a flying unit with humanoid slottage. I missed the unit that solved the routing imp problem, but you seem confident, so let's just assume the Moloch is fine.

That's not a particularly effective build, since you can put only a moderate suit of armour on him to bring him up to high armour levels, and mistform breaks as soon as it is hit by a magic weapon.

It wasn't meant to be an archtype build for the Moloch, only to remind people that his path cost was extremely high. I don't really know where the mistform comment came from. Cloud trapeeze and mirror image are the key spells. Mistform is a toy.

This thread is not about the Shedu, which is why nobody but yourself is bringing up that off-topic irrelevancy.

I don't find it irrelevant at all. The Last time there was a debate on a pretender chassis, you and a few others seemed hell-bent to disprove all arguments that he wasn't working well. You've replied to my post, which was made regarding comments that the imp bug was deliberately included to prevent the moloch from becoming an all-powerful SC. Clearly the moloch with imps removed would still be a magicly limited, yet physicaly powerful pretender... and the best chassis to use for a fire-9 blessing. Even with imps removed I doubt anyone would use him over other flying humanoids unless they wanted the bless effect. Therefore, imp removal would not suddenly catapult the Moloch to the top of the pretender tree.

You on the other hand, have made points that nobody disputes, least of all myself... making your post completely irrelevant. Obviously once again you are making an attempt to discredit your percieved foes by attacking their dominions 2 knowledge, spelling, or child care theories.