[Gandalf Parker]

They are leaderless but they do have a high moral. I seem to have a percentage chance of getting the province. In any case I at least know its safe to attack with the pan on the next round if need be. I think one of the "spread-sheet/rules" players said it had something to do with attacker vs defender. What I seem to see is that it seems to boil down to whoever actually leaves the field first loses. When both rout it seems to be a race.

I dont like turmoil with Pangaea. The money is a big need, and I really need to use every independent troop I can make. So Id rather have Order for gold and less need to leave patrols behind in the provinces I make them in. Most of my uses of Maenads dont call for big numbers, or happen outside of my dominion anyway.

I also play alot of stealth so I tend to take low dominion, and lots of painful negatives, so my scales probably wouldnt work well for you.

With Carrion I take turmoil.