[Boron]

Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:

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Originally posted by Boron:
in normal maps they are a benefit but as i said at faerun / orania if you have fortified all coastal provinces in the late game they are a burden

Anyone is entitled is own opinion. Anyway I've played R'lyeh once on the World map, and to me they were a blessing rather than a burden.

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try them on faerun . the world map is not so big like faerun and more important it is one gigantic sea while in faerun you have your coast and then your next opponent can be 5-6 landprovinces away but you still have not won but only 1/3 of the map.
there they are a curse.
on the world map i believe that they were more a bless than a curse because you have no such long inland distances like faerun.

Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:

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but let's assume 10 gp : you could have instead 2 lobo guards or for 5 hybrids 1 illithid/illithid soldier ... .

Wrong. You have to factor in the initial cost, and the life expectancy of the unit. My own loboes and hybrids rarely live more than 5 turns average, so for me hybrids are considerably cheaper.

And comparing Illithids to hybrids is like comparing apples to oranges. Illithids are more durable (partly because I take care of them), and have a very different role, and each role has to be fulfilled - so I want both.

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i agree somehow to this but they all have upkeep in common and if you would be allowed to choose i would take some cheap summons / lobos rather as fodder than the hybrids because i can't control them and say stop when i don't want any more of them .

finally i have to say that generally you are right only at the faerun map they are a disadvantage and only if you build castles .
but i love the faerun map most and ryhleh is one of the best castling nations at all so you have to take one of 2 bad choices at faerun . either lowering upkeep or not building castles in coastal provinces