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Old July 27th, 2004, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!

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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
Why don't you take a look at Canada, where better health care than what is available in the U.S. (30th in the world vs. 38th), costs 57% as much per person.
You or myself have no idea what method of complete healthcare will be placed and the overall outcome... Canadian style or something. Personally I view it as not worth the risk for raising my taxes on something which may be better for the USA. This gamble is not worth the risk.

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Another bad reason for government healthcare is we would never be able to go back.
Why would you want to go back?

Paying less taxes and giving people reasons for not being lazy. Like many others I choose to decide how my money is spent and give as little to the government as possible. And if our government makes a huge financial mistake with trying to provide healthcare for everyone it could easily do great damage to our economy and no way to go back.

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If they pay American taxes, or are U.S. citizens, then the American government should support them. Your strawman about other countries is meaningless, since they are not U.S. taxpayers or citizens.
Earlier you were saying the moral thing to do is help everyone... now you're saying only those which are american citizens. I don't believe our government has the wisdom to provide an effective healthcare system for everyone since it cannot even handle the growing national debt.


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Lets see... there are millions without any healthcare which would be going to the hospitals if they could...
Don't quote partial/incomplete sentences... which miss the main point. I could easily use the same quote for if the U.S. was to give a Universal Healthcare for all nations.

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whether or not its needed.
There are thousands which abuse the generosity from America and other governments. Example= My cousin helped a woman move groceries which used food stamps. The groceries were going into a shiny expensive BMW. Despite your mind reading beliefs... I have no ill thoughts to those less fortunate.

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I can't believe that you are seriously making an argument that it's a _good_ thing that people are going without medical treatment.
And thus I ask again... why not have the USA provide a Universal Healthcare for all nations!

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Example=
Will people start giving more blood with the new healthcare system to help provide the supplies needed for Y amount of people?? Take a guess!
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I don't have to guess. The blood supply in Canada is completely voluntary, Canadian Blood Services is a government agency that is responsible for collecting blood, and guess what, we have adequate, though sometimes low blood supplies just like the U.S.
It's not like the U.S. has doctors and nurses just sitting around bored. Heck it takes me 5 months before I can make my next doctors appointment after each visit... any cancelation means waiting another 5 months. The taxes could be as high as what switzerland is paying or may not be.... but not worth the gamble.

[ July 26, 2004, 23:47: Message edited by: NTJedi ]
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