[Boron]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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but holy pyre seems powerful so could it be possible that the vq in the battles you have in mind was killed mainly by holy pyre or wither bones and not by x-bows with flaming arrows themselves graeme dice ?

I'm not talking about a vampire queen. I'm talking about niefel giants against longdead archers.

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hm a niefel giant is only a unit and has 15 prot . a banefire archer has a natural 10 ap weapon . so you should do 3.99 avg. damage per hit according to saber cherry's statistics too .

there i fully agree .

even if you meant niefel jarls instead of niefel giants they have starting protection of 15 too + no earth / air magic so bringing them up to 25+ protection needed to be quite safe is a difficult task too . you have no access to earth magic via your national magicians + no starting earth income . so you would need your pretender to forge late early game black steel full plates .
given their high encumberance + that you should have more important uses for your pretender than this hard to get niefel jarls higher than 20 protection early-midgame .
with 20 protection according to saber cherry's dice odds you still suffer 2.13 avg damage .

because any x-bow has ap 10 damage any x-bow will be a great threat to niefel jarls early - midgame at least .

niefel jarls should excel at sc 1on1 killers with an-weapons .
but how can you protect them cheap + efficient with your national mages early-midgame ?
if you need your pretender for that would be not so good .


how do you defend midgame against a mictlan vq attack with devil or vampire horde ?