[Boron]

Originally posted by Truper:

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Originally posted by Cainehill:
Also, I'm sure I'm not the only one who despises the concept that a theme is only going to be viable if you totally trash your scales and make an ungodly SC, especially a VQ.

I agree completely. Boron, with all due respect, I'd have to say that if your aproach is necessary to make the theme viable, then the theme is truly broken.

Boron's approach takes what may be a slightly underpowered theme and makes it completely unplayable. Its income will be so awful that it won't be able to take advantage of the superb S&A Celestial Masters, effectively reducing the entire nation to a single unit - not a winning strategy for any for any nation, as I'm surprised Cainehill didn't understand.

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why are you so sure that this doesn't work ?
the income is crappy but enough to get 1 celestial master per turn after turn 4-5 .
he is capitol only anyways.
you are somehow dependant from luck but it works well often .
you can pillage a rich province with the dispossed spirits early on to get money .

you are going to be the magical powerhouse mid-lategame .

expansion is still good enough with vq + 2nd small archer army .

as i described very detailed the vq gives you the ability to summon quite a lot .
with magic 3 you are one of the fastest researches .

if you are in danger early or fear it you can research cloud trapeze and interupt the main army with your vq .

i simply don't see why building few troops but focussing on a strong pretender and as quick as possible strong summons isn't viable .

if you really don't like my turmoil 3 you can change to order 3 , that makes -240 points but you have still a decent vq then .

with tien chi you just have a really superior vq . or your preferred other sc pretender .
but so far i love vq most .

edit : if you can give me real evidence and not only claiming that doesn't work perhaps i change my view . but so far you only made assertions and didn't backup them by arguments.

You have about 1/3 income but you need not as many as with other nations . together with luck this really compensates until midgame and then almost all national troops are only fodder nothing else .
due to your superior gem income you will have then you can get lots of magical fodder instead .

simply because my playstyle seems to differ greatly from yours saying this doesn't work is arrogant .

[ July 29, 2004, 19:33: Message edited by: Boron ]