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				 Re: Speeding Up Tien Chi  Spring and Autumn ?! 
 
	great ideas . i still don't think s&a is too weak but with bk i totally agree .Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by SelfishGene: Spring and Autumn and Barbarian Kings both need a couple new units imo; which would hopefully give them the power they need.
 
 I started to make a S&A unit mod but wasn't sure how to extract animations exactly, and using screenshots is ineffective.
 
 I play Tien Chi rather often, so i do have perhaps a bit of self-interest in these sorts of improvements.
 
 S&A needs a 'philosopher-poet-general' unit and a 'Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon' swordsman, sort of a buildable Lu Tung-Pin.  However i can't think of how to make either one really unique without the ability to make new abilities.  The Poet-General might have +30 defense/+30 seige?  Since its already been done it sounds a bit dull, but i can't think of another way of really differentiating 'military skill'.  The Hidden-Jedi could be just a weaker Version of the hero - 1e, 1w, 1a, 2random, high attack and defense, flying, no armor.
 
 Barbarian Kings needs a Marco Polo styled sea-fearing leader, an elite sacred horse archer (the only sacred archer), and maybe the ability to Capture Slaves similar to Mictlan.
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 i love the slaves idea .
 perhaps bk should get the ability to capture slaves by pillaging .
 these slaves can than either be converted to blood slaves or sold to slave traders for gold .
 
 for these special slaves 1-2 minor demon summons could be added like with tien chi s&a .
 the slaves could be sold for 5 gold each or converted to blood slaves at a ratio of either 3/4/5 : 1 .
 
 like SelfishGene said a strong horse archer with melee skills needs to be added .
 there is already a horse archer with melee skill but unfortunately he is a poor copy of what the mongols & huns really were .
 so the blessable archer idea is cool .
			
			
			
			
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