[Boron]

Originally posted by Cainehill:

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Originally posted by Vynd:
I was in favor of weakening the VQ before, but I think it is too soon to say if she needs to be weakened again. It does seem to me that she remains the most powerful combat Pretender you can get starting out the game.

The Carrion Dragon (as well as Allfather) is probably a better, more powerful combat pretender right out of the blocks, especially when playing as CW, giving quick easy access to some very high regeneration for the CD.

Even late game, fully tricked out, the CD and Allfather are just as good. The difference is that the VQ dying is a only an inconvenience, as are any crippling wounds, even feeblemindedness. (Crippling wounds also aren't a big deal for the CD.)

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yeah her immortality is a problem .
so you may chose what she should do :
still be quite dangerous unequipped / only low euquipped in many situations or extremely well euqipped .

she has built in so many things already .
flying , no need for boots of air , so she can take boots of quickness etc.

the carrion dragon may be more powerful from turn 1 but he has only 3 slots . and with alteration 3 the vq is sufficient enough to expand against all but 5% of the indies and win 99% sure .

the allfather is good too but restricted to vanheim only . if you spent lots of points in him it is a waste for vanheims good troops .

and he still may die unluckily .

with the vq you really can do everything she is the best allrounder .
mid-lategame you can either let her be a supporter by forging / summoning or turn her into at least a top 3 sc with euqipment .

because of their allround abilities she is still the best choice for the nations who can afford .
perhaps putting her to fire -100 resistence like the lich would solve that .