[Boron]

Originally posted by Cainehill:

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Originally posted by Zapmeister:
I agree, but I don't think I ever proposed nerfing the VQ "into oblivion". I hold to the view that she's still a little over-powered post-2.12, but that's a debate I'm trying to steer clear of now.

Yeh - the VQ may be a little over-powered still, but mainly only for a couple of nations / themes. More importantly, it isn't so much overpowered that there aren't possibilities that are at least on a par with it. For example - Caelum : Virtue, PoD, and Moloch all seem to be roughly on par with a VQ. Sure, maybe a little lighter in the loafers, but real close - enough that you can see building a game and pretender against any, and not just the VQ.

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the "problem" now with the vq is that the races who can still afford her , mainly caelum and abysia are already good races without vq .

this makes them even more desireable . from my short experience now abysia + caelum are under the 5 first chosen races in most offered games .