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Boron said:
The best ice devil statwise , Bune has 16 att and 20 def .
The water queens have 15 att/def .
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The ice devil can easy take either bloodthorn + lucky coin shield or wraith sword .
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So can the water queen. There's no difference in the equipment this way.
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So the water queen hits with odds like < 1% while the ice devil has a first hit chance of like 3-5% .
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If you're going to make your argument solely on theory and statistics, then you should really make sure that you get those statistics correct. A 5 point difference between attack and defense means that the water queen will hit 14% of the time, assuming that you haven't outfitted her for increased attack and defense.
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With the bloodthorn/wraithsword he slowly fatigues the water queen which reduces def . So the waterqueen will fatigue out normally sometime and die then .
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The water queen has a base encumbrance of 0. Life drain should not increase her fatigue at all. If it does, then she'll be able to recover it all back everytime that she does hit the ice devil. After all, her attacks cost her no fatigue.
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You can of course take reinvigoration items but the ice devil has already 1 slot advantage : the foot slot .
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Which will likely be taken by flying boots, which do nothing underwater. There is no other boot that would be of any particular benefit in this combat.
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A waterqueen just almost can't hit a correct equipped icedevil while she gets hit occasionally which is enough for the ice devil to win . So the ice devil should win about 990 of 1000 fights against a water queen.
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You might want to not use invalid numbers to support your purely theoretical arguments that go against what you'd actually see in the game.
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The ice devil though is probably the only Nonpretendersc which beats a waterqueen Sc underwater .
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It won't beat one underwater.