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Old September 11th, 2004, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: Ceremonial Faith

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Arryn said:
So what you're saying is that the ceremonial ritual for god-calling is (fundamentally) no different than that of a spell ritual (which also isn't granted a bonus in CF)?
Well, technically it sure is different - using religious faith instead of magical energies, using a different command - call god instead of cast ritual spell. Although it's true I consider god-calling as a form of summoning that's available to priests of one's religion. I guess a commoner in Dominions - especially an atheist - wouldn't notice a great difference if an Arch Theurg calls the local pretender back, or summons an Elemental Queen of Air instead.

Anyway I'm not saying "it works like this", rather "this is how I understand it". I gave my own interpretation of CF just like you gave yours, I don't pretend it's the Ultimate Truth. If CF indeed had an effect on god-calling (which I wouldn't mind BTW), I'd envision things entirely differently - with priests leading public ceremonies with thousands of attendants and relying mainly on the commoners' piety to call the deity back, rather than relying on their own religious knowledge (using specific prayers) in magic ritual-like ceremonies.

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Then I submit that the description should not refer to the bonus as applying to a "religious ceremony", since ceremonies are traditionally prayers (which in this game's terms means spells, not preaching).
The blurb texts never use technical terms. And while it may be misleading sometimes, I like it this way - I think it gives a cool touch to the game.

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I suppose that the devs intended to mean that in CF preaching is ceremonialized (and thus very ritualized), but that blurs the line between what is preaching and what is a magic invocation (ritual) and the language one uses to describe such should be chosen more carefully to make this very clear. (Or, at least, explicitly state that god-calling isn't included in CF's effect.)
It could be worse. What if the had called CF Ritual Faith instead?
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