If the game continued, I'd continue playing.
As to positions, I was listing everyone in the game and a subset of that (removing the unrated players) would be the "Ratings" finish.
I only mentioned Joachim behind you because of our partnership (I wouldn't let you get beat up if I could help it and AtomSmasher, I presume, would like someone to "play" with). Also, their is Rex, another partner of mine. Not sure he would participate in a war against Joachim but with Gandalph out, what's he going to do with his 800 ships?
But, I don't really care THAT much about it and if you're ready to trade places with him, Geo, it's fine with me. After all, I suggested people offer comments
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