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Fyron said:
Because it makes it more fun to have the chance to discover technology that leads nowhere... It adds more random chance and variety to the game. Why would all ruins be something good left behind? Maybe the ruins are just some partial houses with no useful technology to be gleaned... I believe you are the first person I have ever encountered that was utterly against this idea. Should we also make it so that there are no systems that are empty? It is kinda kicking the player in the teeth when he explores a new system and finds absolutely nothing of value...
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An empty star system isn't quite the same thing as getting nothing from ruins. One does not expect to find stars surrounded by colonizable planets on the other side of every WP, therefore finding nothing at all isn't really a kick in the teeth since at least now you KNOW there's nothing in that system.
But taking the time to build a colony ship, settle the planet, and if suggestions in this thread are implemented, spending a bunch of research points on absolutely nothing. Then what are you left with? I figure, if it's a bunch of delapidated old houses, it isn't really worth mentioning. Therefore the fact that your scouts flagged a planet as containing ancient ruins means there's something worthwhile there.
I could accept ruins tech that would be inferior even the lowest tech levels your empire could research, since you could always find a use for it, even if it's just trading it to another unsuspecting empire for something good. Or I could accept techs that fail to live up to their promise. ie: You find a ruin tech that you're told will allow you to develop a gun the size of a Meson BLaster but with enough power to destroy an entire world, but after you research it you just end up with something the size of an MB that does, say, 50% more damage. Not what you were promised, but still useful.
But to get NOTHING? I wouldn't consider that fun. I'd consider it frustrating and annoying.
For everyone who's played GalCiv, let me just ask, when you send your Survey Ship halfway across the galaxy to an anomaly that normally gives you that 25% tech boost, but instead you get nothing, do you say, 'Boy, that was fun!' or 'That was an annoying waste of time!' with a few explicitives thrown in for good measure?