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rdouglass said:
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Imperator Fyron said:
...Just as in an era with nuclear bombs, those in Afghanistan and Iraq put up no resistance at all and just smoothly transition from the old government to the new without any fuss?
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What? Fyron, up until this statement, I thought you were making sense. Where have you been the past coupla' years? I see nothing smooth at all in those two countries... 
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Giving a real life example of how the threat of total annihiliation should have worked, if his proposition was true.
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...and often when a player surrenders, all his planets are rioting and you have to spend who knowns how many turns to end them, so that could be turmoil.
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More often they have police troops and are still jubilant...