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Atrocities said:
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"have the same consititutional rights that married couples "
they dont in most states
"I agree that the concept of marrage should be defined as between a man anda women"
why?
the government ought to call them all civil unions, and marriages be done in a church
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That is regretable and in my opinion seriously wrong not to have the same rights as married couples. I am sorry, but like I said, people are people and no one should preclude one person form having the same 'rights' as another for any reason.
However, Marrage is not a right and therefore not subject to the equal rights.
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Tough call there, actually. Married couples gain several (and quite significant) rights, many of which are denied to others.
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Gay couples should have the same legal rights as married couples. Of this there should be no debate.
Why do I feel that marrage should be between a man and a women? Well because that is what I believe.
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And you fail to examine/change what you believe because... ? I've changed my beliefs, thats for sure.
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Asking someone to answer this is a kin to asking them why they like a specific color or if they believe in God or not. And I feel that attacking someone because they believe this is the wrong thing to do. The same goes for attacking someone who does not believe this. It all boils down to personal beliefs over a term that has been historicaly defined via thousands of years, as a union between one man and one women.
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And historically, the White/Caucasian people were thought to be superior. Some traditions are worthy of discarding...
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I simply agree that it should remain so and that gay couples that want to be married do so using the term Civil Union. It is not discrimination, it is simply defining the concept of marrage into two types, marrage and civil union with one being between a man and a women, and the other between same sex.
I really do not understand your Government Church comment so I will not say anything about it.
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To further elaborate what I said:
I meant that there should be no government marriages. None. All unions would be termed "civil unions" and be done in a courthouse or what-have-you. The marriage would be the ritual or ceremony performed at your religious institution of choice. (edit: it would be entirely optional too)