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Turin said:
Ok if you factor in free misfortune 2 points, then it makes sense to take order, however growth is by far the best choice if you are looking for huge amounts of cash.
For example if you play with growth3 order3 productivity 3 and a watchtower, your income will be ~50% higher after 30 turns, than someone´s who chooses only order 3 productivity3 .
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Unless those 120 Points you spent on Growth allowed you to expand ~50% faster or take Indeps of a greater caliber.
Growth only surpasses Order after turn 25 *if* there are no population damaging events or spells tossed into the mix. Even one population damaging event/spell in the first 20 turns will push that back quite a bit.
I have always felt that it's important that all points have an impact on both your strategy as well as the timeframe you are playing in. And as such, I can see where I would still take Death not only in timeframe (under 50 turn games) but also in strategy as well as Growth. Previously I (and only me) felt there was no need to take Growth for any of it's effects (Population/Gold/Supply). Now it may be possible to circumvent one scale with two others (Turmoil).
If it can be shown that Growth outperforms order on a variable slate of games/settings that exceeds it's points I would consider changing it. However, I have yet to see it because of the simple fact that Death is very attractive in *any* sort of game and it's not only spending points, but losing out on the points you could gain from Death.