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Old July 18th, 2001, 05:44 AM

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Default Re: Basic tech mod?

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Don't get hung up on this part of it. Make the mod, do the components, tech tree stuff. Get it to where we can use it for multi player first. We can go back later and tweak the ai to work within the framework.


Agreed.

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(like solar panels but doesn't need a star, if possible)
Not possible without a code change.

-You can fudge it. Make emergancy resupply components..that don't destroy themselves on use. It'd give the AI fits though.

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True, but this is going to severly limit the range of ships, especially in the early going. Not that this is a bad thing, if we are going for ultra-realism. Ships would have to stay very close to home unless they are in large fleets with support vessels. I might even go as far as saying reduce the amount a supply component stores, and make solar cells more expensive to research and build. Eliminate emergency resupply and quantum reactors entirely maybe?


I've always thought of quantum reactors as chessy myself, and as for emergancy resupply.. why not just make it part of the normal resupply pool? Didn't make sense to me.

Various types of armor. Big, cheap but less effective (by weight) but easy to fix, normal, small ablative that is tough but a PAIN to repair, etc.
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No way currently to make components harder or easier to repair. But decreasing their size does make them take longer to repair, because repair rate is by number of components.
Which is what I meant

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Kind of like the engineering section in Hadrians mod and bandyed about for a Trek based mod. Not a bad idea. I think repair bays should be smaller and cheaper, but repair fewer components.
Or put in specilized repair bays, but also smaller components that do less damage. For "mobile drydocks" and the like.

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I'll say. This whole paragraph got away from me. Doesn't fit with the whole idea of the mod IMHO.
Quite.

QUOTE] Uh...see above.[/quote] That it's too high, or it got away from you? It isn't really a shield, just uses (abuses?) the shield mechanics. (the other thing is just a magnetic field that directs rounds away from the ship, but it seems kinda cheap for this mod)

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sorry, component specific mines are another good idea that can't be done currently
This would be because of :Weapon Type := Warhead: right? This wouldn't prevent, say, a cloaking device for mines, would it.. instead of building that into the mine chassis as currently. well, them using it might be an issue..since you can't attack while cloaked. Might just make "stealth mine" chassis then.

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Beams, I agree. But Smart Bombs? Uh, anybody remember the Gulf War? I know Sadam does. Plauge Bombs, definetly doable. No MC's? You mean Master Computers? I'd say most definetly not obvious to me. I can see automated systems controlling ship functions. Remember, what we are going for here is not to limit ourselves to what we can do right now. (We can't even sustain a permanent occupation of the moon right now.) We are just looking to eliminate the techs that aren't feasible with today's science. Smart Bombs and Master Computers are certainly feasible. The principle is understandable, even though we don't have the technology to do it on that scale yet.


What I'd objecting to about the smart bombs is that you instantly know where the facility is, and can kill it in one shot, as I understand it. Same idea as the quantum (chesse) but less impossible.

[quote]I like this. Advances in missle tech would give increases in range and speed, but not change damage. Advances in warheads would increase damage, but not speed or range. Great idea. Each new mssle component wouild simply have two research requirements. Very easy to implement.[quote]

Yah, very simple. Requires a bit of playing with the techs, but entirely possible

If we're going to have things like fusion reactors, I'd add a short-ranged cannon that "fires" a contained fusion reaction.. which of course shortly becomes UN-contained. Give it short range and drasticly decreasing damage, along with 1 damage near the ship (firing interlock to prevent self-destruction) and high on the tech tree.

I'd say powerful lasers are in, but should loose damage at range. Possibly another split tech tree option there- you can either get more powerful, but badly focused, lasers, or opt to refine your technology for pinpoint damage.. then research the other side later to get the nasty stuff.

Also more slug throwers of course.. and I'd say slow down the speed of the "basic" weapons to 2 or three, enabling you to simulate rapid-fire, higher tech weapons easier.

I'd say planet, sun, black hole and the like devices are out, of course.. how about monilith facilites? Different name/picture for them?

Also.. self destruct? Personally I don't like it, simply because it's 100% effective. But not allowing it is going to lead to a LOT of boarding actions.. then again, as boarding parties also act as defense, that might cancel itself out. You can probably scratch the damage reduction abovem because it would prevent boarding parties from working until it was destroyed. Hmm. That's an idea all to itself, I think.

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