Wrong.
There is a *very* real difference in the two cases you describe. There are no space faring races in our lives. There are no billions of inteeligent beings being enslaved by alien empires. These are not, at all, analogous to events or people or places in our own reality.
Now, if you had a game that was "How many Hutus can you kill?" or "How many Serbs can you Rape?" then, yea, we're talking similar things.
This is analogous to the game "how many women can you rape" "How many women can you pimp out"
When I play SE4, I play with certain game objects called "planets" and "starships" and "planetary populations"
When I play this pimp game, I play with certain game objects called "women".
(That last noun clause is quoted from your post, BTW)
This is the fundamental, crucial difference. And it is especially so becuase pre-teens play this game.
I'll stop there but say lastly that for what it's worth, I am not entirely convinced that this game in question is problematic - ALL I am talking about is the existence, or non-existence, of some "line" that is theoretically crossable or not. Is there such a line? That's all I'm asking.
Is there such a line? If so, where? If not, is this a good thing?
Alarik
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Hunpecked said:
Alarikf and Rasorow seem to be confusing fantasy and reality here. As Dogscoff illustrated in his roundabout way, even with a game as "violent" as Space Empires, where entire "star systems" are ravaged and literally billions of "intelligent beings" are "killed" or "enslaved", NO ONE is actually harmed (aside from voluntary sleep deprivation, perhaps  ). When the "emperor" gets up from his/her computer, yawns, and crawls into bed, lo and behold: the universe remains as it was. Birds still sing, the planets remain in their orbits, and billions of "dead" people go about their daily business, oblivious. 
Now from what I've read of this "Pimp" game, it's pretty much the same. The "pimp" makes "money" by playing certain cards to "abuse", "exploit", and "addict" certain game objects called "women". When the game is over, however, the player (or "pimp") has no more of the real-world commodity we call "money" than he (or she) started with (and probably less, having paid some to the game's manufacturer), he doesn't drive a real-world "pimpmobile" (unless he already had one), and he hasn't done the slightest microscopic iota of harm to any real-world creatures we call "women".
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Actually, one last question: why don't we hear from the majority of the earth's population and see what they think about it. Any women reading this? Hunpecked, you married or have a GF? Ask them what they think. I can't speak for them. Maybe I am too uptight.