> Actually, I have not seen a VQ in play since the nerf, so I'd say 'oblivion' is indeed accurate. Personally I think that the VQ downgrade went WAY too far. I was never too afraid of undead pretenders, because there are a number of spells that take care of them real well. I was a newbie, and I cannot say I could have handled the VQ in her prime, but I have since killed a number of GKs in middle/late games, and frankly I do not see how the VQ pretender deserves the ridiculously high cost and the expensive paths.
Have you ever played a lich? Do they need to be un-nerfed from oblivion? The VQ was nerfed with the lich in mind. GK is not immortal. Immortals are difficult to evaluate as the immediate use of immortality might not be apparent (perhaps if you are flying).
> By the way, I have not seen Black Forest Ulm much lately, either. The VQ was a way to make them half-way viable.
Half-way viable? I thought they were considered one of the most powerful nations by some players at a time. I never got the impression that the VQ was the main reason for this. But you are right, there is not much talk about BF Ulm anymore (in either direction, wich perhaps means that it is balanced
).