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RudyHuxtable said:
I don't want to be a party pooper but I do think the Dune/Star Wars comparison is wrong. Dune is written very much as an allegory to the problems and cultures of the current middle east. The spice is characterized by oil (which really does rule the known universe), and the Emperor is basically the British Empire, since at the time they still had a great command of the region. The Fremen are sometimes compared to the Bedouins, but it is more likely Arabs in general were the basis for the Fremen. Once the first book was written, he eschewed the original tenor a bit and made the series stranger and stranger, but nevertheless his initial inspiration was the effects of oil on the international community.
Star Wars was made with the old west in mind, and he included magic to help build his myth, since so much of our past includes tales of miracles and other "magic" occurrences.
I'll go with you on Forbidden Planet, though.
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I agree with you 100% with the exception that Lucas was inspired by Dune. I have been listening to the series on audio cd and they share a lot of common threads.
Paul would be Obi Wan, while his son Leto, a twin no less just like Leia and Luke, turns into something like Vader, (God Emperor) as an example.
The seeing into the future, the ability to move before things happen, all of this sings of the Jedi and their force powers.
In dune the Empire is very old, as was the Rebublic in Star Wars. In Dune the Emperor had his dreaded Sadacar (sp) while in Star Wars the Emperor has his Stormtroopers.
Instead of fighting over the spice and a single planet the rebellion becomes the spice and the battle become a fight over good vs evil.
I guess you have to be in the right frame of mind to see the simularities that stood out to me. Star Wars is on its own, one of the greatest sci-fi epics of all time. To bad it was tanted with PM, a good movie that could have been far better, and by AOTC, a horrible movie that at times reminded me of Star Wars.