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Old August 3rd, 2001, 11:58 PM

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Default Re: OT = How Does Shrapnel Stay In Business

I heard that there was some good drugs in this forum so I thought I would stop by and check it out!

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Originally posted by LCC:
Back in 85 the Amiga Workbench (Windows
without Microsoft and concurrent multitasking to boot)was controlled either



Back in 82 the Commodore 64 (Amiga without the GUI, multitasking, graphics, sound, etc...) we had direct access to the hardware too! Then Commodore ruined it for all of us by creating a Multi-Tasking OS with a GUI! Talk about BLOAT! You needed more than 64K of memory after that, and you had to load the OS off of Floppy or Hard Disk! Progress just sucks!

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by the developer using the Intuition interface to the lower level drivers, or going down to the driver level and customizing them for oddball devices. They HAD drivers for every device, and animation/ graphics/ sound at any level desired to boot. They would have had packages for software composition at higher levels than the Intuition interface if the company had Lasted long enough to get customers that NEEDED it.



Uh, I believe the call that a "Device Driver" today. Some people even refer to it as "Hardware Abstraction". Something new? Nope. Something that Commodore inventerd? Nope.

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That's because it was an OPEN operating system



Is this the Microsoft definition of "Open Operating System"? Could I get a copy of the Amiga OS source code? Could I run the Amiga OS on my Atari ST? On the PC? How about the MAC? I don't think its really "Open" if you can't see the source, or run it on any other platform other than the Amiga.

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supporting thousands of third party companies with cheap or free development tools, well documented, well designed for ease of understanding, well concieved for functionality, and memory/ execution time efficient to boot.



Microsoft has 100's of thousands of "Third party companies" support it. There are several free compilers on Windows too! Want documentation? Have you seen the MSDN? Its so big now, that they ship it on a DVD.

What about Books? I went to the bookstore today, and I don't recall seeing "Amiga Unleashed" or "Mastering Amiga", or even "Amiga for Dummies"....

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People like me wrote and published over 800 Megabytes of FREE software for the Amiga, managed by Fred Fish.



Hmmmm... Well, lets see... I just installed SuSE 7.2 Linux on one of my PC's Last weekend. The FULL install was 8 GIG. Guess what! It was all FREE too! Ever taken a look at tucows.com? download.com? fileplanet.com?

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Commodore Amiga had everything they needed except money and marketing skill, which was utterly lacking. ..



Yeah, who needs those! Money? Bah! Marketing? Everyone will just *KNOW* about our product which will solve the Money problem for us! All we have to do is WAIT for the customer to come to us! Brilliant!

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If the new incarnation of Amiga can survive just a couple more years,



Here check out this link to see how well Amiga has been "Surviving" Who owns them now? Who is the CEO again?
http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=AMIGA

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they will OBLITERATE Microsoft, but I expect MS knows it well and will prevent it.



The day this happens, I'm going to Vegas! The day Amiga can OBLITERATE Microsoft is the day I'm going to win in Vegas!

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HOW they will do so is the only question. But I predict that it will NOT be by offering superior products.



How will Microsoft Defeat the Amiga onslaught? By doing exactly what they are doing now against it. Nothing.

Then again, if Jack Tramiel was running Commodore again! Look out MicroSoft!

Now where did I put that Crack Pipe... Oh, LCC is using it right now....


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