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BigDaddy said:You mean with out getting any Ivy Kings  .
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Ivy Kings aren't exactly early game.
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I think you could increase the Ivy King price to 30 nature gems, and decrease their summoning bonus to +2 and they would STILL be a good cast. Anyone disagree?
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I do. To get any benefit out of an ivy king opposed to a vine crown on two mages, you'll have to have the ivy king cast for 15 turns.