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The_Tauren13 said:
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BigDaddy said:Aetheism is a fools bet; You bet everything that you get nothing rather than betting everything that you get everything. . .
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Ok, lets say god does exist, yet I dont believe it.
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Believing there to be no possiblility of gods existence, I live my life just like I actually do, i.e. putting down religion and people who believe in god. So, god strikes me down and I go to hell.
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You have made an admittedly common mistake in dealing with God. God does not send anyone to Hell; people go to Hell themselves. Hell, by definition, is being apart from God. If you live your life believing there is no God, when you die and discover there is a God, you will deny Him then (if you have the strength of your convictions). By doing so, you consign yourself to Hell.
Of course, the question then becomes, "Who would willingly consign themselves to Hell?" The reply is, "Who would willingly deny the possibility of God?"
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Even though inside myself I believe there is no possiblility of gods existence, I go around like you do preaching to everyone everywhere about how great god is.
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If you don't believe in God, and yet try to do God's will, you sound to be quite confused. If you don't believe in God, do not try to tell people about God. You don't go around to adults preaching about the Tooth Fairy, do you?
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So I die. Then what does god do? Does he send me to hell even though I spoke his will? Or do I get into heaven, even though I didnt believe in him? If its the former, then Im screwed no matter what I do, and theres no point in not being atheist.
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Well, you presuppose that you do not, cannot, and will not believe in God. With that presupposition, what can you expect to happen if and when you find out that God does exist?
The problem with your stance is not that you're an atheist, but that you won't even consider the alternative, except from the standpoint of an atheist.
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Either way, theres no reason for me not to be atheist. So stop trying to convert me.
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I do agree with you. As long as you're committed to being an atheist, there's no reason for you not to be an atheist.
I do like this quote by a priest, though.
"If the atheist is right, he will never know."
"If the Christian is wrong, he will never know."