[TerranC]

Starhawk said:
TerranC point being saying "Black Power" movements have never caused a World War is sort of like saying it's all the White man's fault that there were wars

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TerranC said:
My comparison of heterosexuals regards to their relationship with homosexuals and americans of african descent and americans of european descent was only invoked to rebuke AT's flawed comparison of white power movements to black power movements or gay pride movements. I, in no way possible, said, meant to say, or alluded to saying that all whites are KKK members, or all germans are Nazis

So if you want to "generalize' I think you'd have to say the only reason black power movements have never caused a world war is because the vast majority of those in Black Power movements aren't bright enough or charismatic enough to gain any kind of real power.

The only reason black power movements have never caused a world war is they don't preach it.

As for your very, very flawed comment about no one in black power movements being charismatic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stokely_Carmichael
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Garvey

And if you looked at Germany the Nazi party gained power because the vast majority of Europeans are white yes,

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but also because in a way they rebuilt the German infrastructure they made Germany powerful again

They did that after they gained power as a means of preparing for an efficient and massive invasion. Germany being powerful and rich for their own sakes was not part of the plan.

and they appealed not to "White pride" but GERMAN pride and GERMAN heritage as their rallying point,

They never appealed to the german public for their appeals to "German Pride" and German Heritage; They were first elected to the Reichstag because of their views on the economy, and then just barely. As Hitler set in motion his expanssionistic policies, he needed to justify them: their ideas of "german pride" and "german heritage" fit perfectly. After those ideas had outgrown their use, they were warped into the "aryan pride" and "aryan heritage" ideals we know now, which proposes that Germany isn't even German in the first place.

and as they "Liberated other Germanic nations" from the "oppression" of other countries the Germans and even hundreds of thousands of others from other surrounding nations were in a way pleased to see their "original" heritage being honored again and rising to power again after so long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace-Lorraine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschlu..._the_Anschluss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_T...d_World_War_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...dash.3B1945.29

It's a little known fact but there were actually HUNDREDS of AMERICANS in the German Army during WWII and I do mean pure blooded born and bred Americans that were of German heritage and who were sent over by their families to "Fight for your Fatherland".

And they were promptly killed/maimed/imprisonned/dragged off to gulags for being fanatics and simpletons. What's your point?

It was not "racism" alone That caused WWII but a mixture of economic and political problems that gave the Nazi Party it's break in the world to raise an army and get it's people riled up.

I'm not arguing that, and I have never alluded to arguing that.

1. They claim to be socialist while the real Nazi's who they claim to emulate were Fascist

You mean national socialist, which is fascist.

2. They are an undisciplined bunch of idiots while the original Nazis were strict and regimented to keep the people in line.

Which (strict regimentation) appeals to those who are undisciplined in their own upbringing.

3. The modern "Nazis" go around yelling Zeig Heil (sp?) which I've been told means "Victory and Welfare" about thirty times in a row and stomping and throwing a half assed Nazi salute.
While you'd only ever hear the real Nazis say it a handful of times in any given "ralley" much like we'd say "God bless America" or in the case of Brits "God Save the Queen" nobody would be stomping or shouting it like idiots either. I just find that funny is all.

... I won't get into the wrongness of equating Seig Heil and the sort with "God bless america" and "God save the queen" and other sort of patriotic cries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieg_heil

And let's face it the modern "White Power" movements have NEVER caused a world war and probobly never will so you can NOT say "White Power movements" or White anything caused WWII

Just what are you trying to say here? Those who are Nazis today weren't the Nazis of yesterday so they're alright? The Nazis of today are docile creatures who wouldn't dare to dream about WW3 and the sort?

because your seriously forgetting the Japanese and I don't think they subscribed to "White Power" do you?

They subscribed the idea of Japanese Exceptionalism, which might as well be a Japanese version of White Power.

The vast majority of countries who's main populace is black are dirt poor and too busy dealing with "Drugs, tribal warfare, ethnic cleansing" and other crap to cause any world wide trouble I mean have you looked at Africa lately....two words "Hell Hole" not to mention primitive people who still beleive in zombies for crying out loud! Are these the people you think would be ABLE to start a world war?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War