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Which is dumber ? Beating a dead horse Putting the cart before the horse Beating a dead horse is sickening, but may be fun. An inventor could put the cart before the horse, and end up with the equivalent of a rear-wheel drive vehicle. quote: Which one is harder to take with a grain of salt ? A transparent lie An opaque truth Clearly the opaque truth, since the lie is obvious. Advertisers have known this for ages, and use opaque truths such as misleading statistics. [This message has been edited by suicide_junkie (edited 08 September 2001).]

SJ are you as sharp as a razor or as dull as a breadknife ? Your voluminous answer speaks volumes about your lack of cultural referents. The reference which you missed was to the expression "you cant beat a dead horse" which is a rather subtle hint if you think about that a while.

Define transparent in your own words. Do not use circular definitions. As you use each word, reference the definitions it pulls. You may find yourself in somewhat of a quandry.....

Do the same for putting.

No more hints for a while.