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		| The Panther said: 
 
	The wyrm is non-negotiable, I am totally dead set on this. After all, the wyrm is the physically strongest pretender in the game, so why would they allow a lesser being into Council? Plus, there is always the endless arguments about what precisely constitutes a human pretender.Quote: 
	
		| quantum_mechani said: The Wyrm may be the only pretender available for all 17 nations, but every nation has human pretenders as well.
   
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 Of course, it is your game, but because I love a good debate, here are some counterpoints:
It is a little difficult to define strongest, for instance a carrion dragon, even with no magic, would eat a wyrm for breakfast. If you define purely in terms of statistics, there are a number of pretenders such bulls, shedus or manticores that are quite comparable. If you ask me, defining the stringest is a lot fuzzier than defining human pretenders, which are pretty clearly anything with 10 pathcost.
But aside from all that I simply imagine that humans are much more apt to diplomacy, forming councils, and politics in general than wyrms.