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The Panther said:
However, the player who really got the shaft in this game is Cainehill. He has been stuck in the frozen tundra the entire game with no hope of ever breaking out. It is amazing to me that he is still alive. I suppose he is not dead only cause I declared war on Ermor. 
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Shafted? Why, I got all the women, all the wine, all the booze. How could I be shafted? Oh, wait - my advisor tells me that we have no wine (against religion), no women - also against the Priestess's religion, and he only said we had _blues_, not booze. Bah! New advisor!
But, no - I'm alive in part because some players, over the past few years, have learned that I'm loyal/faithful sometimes to the point of stupidity, which has earned me some loyal friends / allies - at least, in non-blitz games.
( Blitzes, depending on starting positions, all beasts, er, bets / friends, are off. )
Of course, I'm also alive 'cause I spanked Tien Chi a couple times - I'm more Guderian than Rommel, I'm better on defense than attack. Sucks to be on defense, but hey!
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Anyway, I see a lot of games that are highly dependant on starting position, like in this game. But that is the luck of the draw!
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True enough. Unless it's too obnoxious, I only really hate starting pos when it's a blitz game, since .... First, you don't have time to do really serious diplomacy without slowing the game to a crippling halt (as per Stormbinder and Cohen, leading me to declare war against them on turn 2, just to avoid 30 minute turns on turn 10). Second, a regular game, who cares if you're really getting thrashed? If it only takes 5 minutes on turn 50, okay. But a blitz, all too often someone's turns take 4 minutes while some others take 30.
Blitz games, the random positions can really suck. Long term games, well, you can get screwed too, but it only takes a couple minutes a day.
This is, however, why I'm starting to like the thought of pre-ordained starting positions more and more, to make for more balanced MP games. (FFA or teams - we had a great team game blitz Sunday, 3 nations against 4 - us of the Triad got smashed, but with better starting positions it would've really been interesting. Team blitz games are great fun. ( As long as Boron and I aren't on the same team
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