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Graeme Dice said:
I asked you how many games it took you before you can guarantee that you will win against 16 other AI players on a ~160 province map. If you can't guarantee that win, then the AI is clearly still capable of beating you. As for your ignorance about the difficulties of AI programming, it doesn't just take talent to build an AI capable of defeating humans. It took decades of research effort to build an AI that could defeat humans at Chess, a completely deterministic game with an 8 X 8 movement grid, and 6 individual unit types. Dominions is only has a few dozen orders of magnitude more choices to make.
Are you claiming that Illwinter hasn't supported their game? Do I need to go through the patch list to point out where you are mistaken?
So you are complaining that Illwinter didn't support single player games, while at the same time you never even _used_ the things they did add for single player games?
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16 AIs on 160+ province maps. I usually played smaller games, and some bigger games too. I NEVER ever had a hard time to beat the AIs. Hm, as for time, I think after 2-3 weeks of playing I was beating the AI in all games, except in a very few where I had some horrible luck or 4+ AIs were constantly attacking me.
The thing is that if a player can beat 3 AI players 1v3!!!!, what can you say about that AI? Just go and try to beat 3 AIs in Galciv2 on harder settings, you will loose very fast. Yes I know that Galciv2 is a singleplayer game. My _ONLY_ complaint was, that the Illwinter team _NEVER_ fixed the major AI problems at all, like the castle building and the correct use of troops/summonings.
This is why I said that this is a bad support. They supported the MP part, thats pretty good, but they released a SP/MP games, I bought it because I've seen "VERY GOOD AI" on the feature list. Do you understand what I am trying to say now?
Please, drop this idea "how hard is to script AI" topic, if a company cannot do it properly, they shouldnt add a singleplayer part then.
Once again, take Galciv2 as an example. Try the AI on the easiest and on the hardest setting. IF you aint exploiting the AI, and ur using normal tactics, you will barely win against the hardest AIs. It is possible to make a good AI, especially if the company knows about the exploits/ai bugs, and they are fixing it. The Galciv2 team is fixing most of those exploits for patch 1.1 AFAIK.
If you want to say that its a SP game, and that the developer team is much bigger then Illwinter, all I gotta say is that the product prices are the same, thus we deserve support for our money. If I buy the game to play singleplayer, I expect fixes in patches for singleplayer if it is needed.
I tried out the latest Dominions 2 patch btw, and the AI is the same, so I dont know that what singleplayer support are you talking about Graeme. Crapload of months passed, and I havent seen a single fix for the AI in Dominions 2. So yeah, this is why I am gonna wait the Dominions 3 demo, and see how it turns out, I am just very cautious with Illwinter now.