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Impractical.
Stealing research in this day and age is impossible. There would be so many back-ups and copies you'd never get all of them. No point even trying that.
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So, steal any research we can, destroy the rest, and if they try and do it again just send in military forces before they can finish research again.
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Agreed, you could set them back. But you couldn't get rid of the research that is already completed, I think.
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Steal a bunch of highly refined uranium from a hostile country? Good luck.
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Steal it, destroy it, meh. Bomb the refining plants. Boom bada boom, and you might not have destroyed all the uranium but you can also put back their research if you bomb the right plants.
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Bomb a uranium refining plant? That'd spread enough radioactive dust around that you might as well just carbet bomb!
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Abduct or kill the scientists? Sure, why not stoop to the level of a terrorist, which is what you'd be if you went in and started blowing people away for the sole reason that you think you're the only one with the right to have nukes.
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I said (though maybe not clearly) that abduction would be my preferred method of "elimination"; I'd kill them ONLY if we'd run out of options. Abducting them does not mean "put them in Guantanamo", at least to me; to me, it means "keep them alive but have them locked up safely where you can keep an eye on them until they can no longer do harm".
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Actually, I just missed the part about abducting as a first measure!

But either way, the point is the same. Abducting and possibly killing people...reminds me of modern-day terrorists!
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Put pressure on a religious zealot that hates you? How? Not when they have you by the short hairs with regards to a resource you don't have enough of...
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Once (if) we've taken/killed their scientists, disabled their refining plants, set back their research programme by years, possibly decades, they'll be at least slightly more..... agreeable. Agreed, religious zealots won't; but putting pressure on them is easier. Even if "putting pressure on them" means "stationing troops just outside their border ready to invade at any time". That's pressure too, you know.
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Agreed, that's quite a bit of pressure! The problem would be executing all of the above without already starting a war you couldn't really win...
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Only options; Flatten the nation. And I don't mean go in there with troops, that's doomed to failure. I mean flatten literally. As in, carpet bombing.
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Ooh, now that's a bad idea. Flattening the research and production facilities, OK, but flattening the nation? And how do you think the rest of your allies would react?
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It may sound cold, but I'd be in favor of it. What else can you do? You can't send in troops, we all know where that'd get you. You can't make idle threats, that's kinda useless as well. Leave you with two options in a religiously fanatical country; either kill them all, or leave them alone.
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Touché.
I was only talking from a fictional standpoint, not the current situation. IF I were a superpower (cough,cough) and IF a nation of religious zealots..... et cetera.
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Of course, this is a totally hypothetical conversation!

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