[shovah]

the reasons the f9/w9 vans are popular are: you lose less so the lower number isnt too important and they are slightly more useful later on. if your looking for other good blesses try n9 or n9/e9 neifel jarls (super high health and with n9 regenerating) or f9/n9 white centaurs (20 health so a little regen, decent defence, with n9+natural they have +6 berserk and they have multiple attacks and stealth. with gloves of the gladiator, pendant of luck and ring of regen their commanders also make tough, unroutable thugs.