[Ygorl]

It's not clear whether Apep is going to prosecute roguehood. I think Puffyn is waiting to see what shovah does, as the ball is very much in Astairr's court. My feeling, based on what he's said so far, is that he's very much willing to work, but in the absence of any gestures from Astairr, Apep will prosecute.

Speculating wildly, I'd say he's going to wait until right up to the deadline; if nothing's happened, he'll either decide to prosecute and attack massively this turn, or else he'll decide to let another turn pass before attacking.

So, shovah, I'd say you've got about an hour, maybe a bit more, to either get a message to Puffyn directly or else get a proposition up. That's if you want to play it safe, anyway. These discussions might have resulted in enough uncertainty that he'll be willing to wait another turn, but there's no telling. Or, you could decide that roguehood is the way to go, and launch an attack of your own. I've seen some of Mictlan's armies, though, and they're pretty fearsome. I recommend you talk to him (or at least get someone to put up a proposition for you that clarifies your position).

Or, if there's enough interest (and nobody objects) I guess I could postpone hosting until this gets a little more resolved. I dunno. What do you folks think?