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Old May 22nd, 2006, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: Bar vs FG42 is it a draw?

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chuckfourth said:
Assumption number 1 is wrong because the premise that the weapon was only ever used as a rifle never as a SAW is patently ridiculous. How often this happens is arguable, but if just one of 7 FG42 in the squad is used as a BAR this is enough to justify the change to 20 and 5. And there would certainly be circumstaces when the weapon was used in the same role as the BAR.
Dig up the documentation and you may have a case. If not, I doubt you will get anywhere, regardless of how many posts you make.

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The argument that because its in slot one it cant have its value increases is a complete furphy, It can easily have its acc and hit changed to 20 and 5 like the BAR. Play balance wouldnt suffer in the least. What the change to 20 and 5 values represents is an acknowledgemant of the inherent flexibity of the weapon.
You should use MOBHACK to change the values, test it an post the results to support your argument.

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As you say Clause it is the use of the weapon that is the issue here and you cannot tell me with a straight face that it was never used as SAW.
Nor can you say that it was always being used as a light machinegun by every man in the squadron. I have already stated what I think you need to do to convince anyone of the need of a change: Find documentation for the use and issue of the FG42. In other words: Do some work to make the game better instead of just whining about it.

As for bias, it is typical that your solution to a percieved problem always results in a massive gain for the German side in the game. Whether that is by intent or just due to a lack of knowledge about the game, I can't say

In this case, you suggest changing the FG42 values so everybody in an FJ squad will be carrying a light machine gun and use it as such - always.

Clearly not on.

IF the FG42 was used, as a rule, as an LMG as well as a rifle, then the right solution, in my view, is to create a new weapon as a weapon class 2 and issue that as a supporting weapon like the BAR while retaining the FG42 as a rifle in slot 1 with the current stats. How such a solution would be employed would depend on the documentation (issue, use).

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Marek is very likely correct. Logistics are greatly simplified if the weapon is concentrated in particular units rather than spread out evenly.
That is the assumption for the way the game currently treats the weapon.

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