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Old May 28th, 2006, 12:22 AM
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Wiem1938 said:

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However I can confirm that the 1943 SPW mounted pzgr troops did use two MG42's per section. This fits into German combat doctrine where the SPW pzgr troops were used in a heavy combat role, either as spearhead or firebrigade troops.
Would recommend an additional section per platoon, plus the modified section as standard. Also add to all late 1943 infantry/panzergrenadier companies 6xPanzerschrek teams.
I'll think about it. It *MIGHT* be possible to add a LMG team to each PzGren Platoon in 1943 and they could be carried in the /10 or /9 OR it might be possible to add a variation of the existing Pzgren unit with 2 LMG's but that would mean one of the other weapons would have to be left out. There is no room left in the PzGren Kp's to add 6xPanzerschrek teams. They would have to be added to the unit's which are used by the platoons which would mean adding some Panzerschrecks in place or panzerfausts. I'll consider this as well and consult with a few people


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An independent query... DRG, what is the evidence as to how widespread usage of the Stg44 was prior to autumn 1944? The TOE file has the Stg44 available from Jan 44.
Though from what I understand the Stg44 was not put into truly industrial scale production until the summer of 1944, and does not appear in any photographs or combat reports really until the autumn. Though it may have seen earlier use in the East.
I am also aware of the combat evaluation tests undertaken (chiefly by equipping a tried unit with the weapons and then asking questions - SS Wiking was one such unit in the autumn of 1943).

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Richard
One of my favorite subjects....

Wiking evaluated a version of that gun in the Spring of 1943 not the autumn. Approx 14,000 guns were delivered to the Wehrmacht in 1943 which when those production figures are put into a global warfare perspecive it gets mentions as "only".

8000 had been delivered by the middle of 1943 ( 2,800 Mkb.42(W)Walthers and 5,200 Mkb.42(H) Haenels )when the design was standardized as the MP43 using the Haenel design with the Walther firing system. The Walther was lighter and better balanced and more accurate but the Haenel was much simpler.

So, there were enough around at the beginning of 1944 to justify adding them to the OOB at that point but not really before then and it was not worth wasting weapon slots to give then their correct names for the dates they were known by before they were finally known as the "StG.44"

The one I own is stamped "MP43" and is serial number 2763/44p

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