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In my current game the Zudoc Federation has done nothing political at all, no warnings, threats, or treaty requests and they have not responed to any of my treaty requests.

Also the Abbidon proposed "non agression" treaties that included large amounts of trade and banned research. They also never surrendered even after I had them down to just their homeworld with no ships, bases, units, or facilities left and only about 1/2 their starting pop. Man I wanted that gas colonization tech. In SEIV they would definitely have surrendered.

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