First of all, the point of my post was to show how the game actually works and what data is actually at play. I'm not "apologizing for the phantom OOB designers" as you suggest, I'm pointing out how the game currently works. People reading your post could easily get the impression that you knew what you were talking about, which is evidently not the case.
I'm also pointing to some of the limited sources that actually deal with the problem at hand to counter your arguments which are, as usual, only based on your opinion.
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chuckfourth said:
As chief apologist for these phantom OOB designers you should know that these changes all came into place after v6 of the DOS version.
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Actually, some things have changed since DOS V7 was released. Some vehicles now model 5 round bursts, not 9 round, there have been changes in the composition of the ammo load etc.
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chuckfourth said:I would like to see a reference for this statement I would think the magazines would contain either HE or AP.
Would you be able to share these combat reports with us Clause?
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They can be found in Jentz: "Panzertruppen..." vol. I. As usual, I dont really care what you think, I'm more interested in what documentation can be dug up to shed light on the issue at hand. Do you have anything other than your own opinions to support the changes you want made to the game?
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chuckfourth said: Again replacing the weapons primary function with its secondary function resulting in a huge performance loss. How often did these vehicles fire at aircraft ?
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I dont know. Do you?
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chuckfourth said: I notice you have convieniently missed out the ammo loadout for 234/1, its 480 rounds.
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How exactly did I "miss" that? It is in the list I posted between the 231(8) and 250/9.
FWIW, I think the 9 round burst thing introduced in V7 was wrong, as it reduced the combat effectiveness of vehicles (not only the German ones) with autocannons way below what their actual combat performance would suggest. Clearly, at some point OOB designers have thought so as well, as the Panzer IIs are now modelled as firing 5-round bursts
Whether bursts of 5 rounds or 3 rounds or something else is the "right" number can be debated ad nauseam (as I'm sure it will be
) but as Narwan says, it is really a pointless discussion. The real issue is how to model the gun (and any other autocannon) in a way that take into account its dual-fire nature. We all know that you want single round fire and that you have wanted that since you brought up the issue the first time 20 months or so ago. So far, you havent brought forward any actual evidence on how the gun was used.
I think your idea about how the gun was used is wrong and I have some hard data to back that opinion up. If you can come up with some good evidence (as opposed to opinion) as to why it should be different, go ahead and share.
Claus B