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StarShadow said:
I thought Artaud made a very good arguement for his point of view. It's a shame that the first response to it only addresses a tiny fraction of it, and completely misinterpets it to boot.
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To be fair, he has a couple good ideas, but neglected to mention it, my bad.
All nukes should be accounted for = great idea.
Heck, lets ban nuclear weapons all together, that would be grand.
The US makes some strange allies and sells out its principles by dealing with the likes of Pakistan. Well, debatable, but certainly has some truth to it.
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As for North Korea being a bully, how many soldiers do they have stationed outside their own borders? How many does the US have?
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The US troops are in South Korea at the behest of the South Koreans. Tell them to tell the US to leave. Tell Japan and China too for that matter. Like I said, I do agree, in practice if not principle. I'd like the US troops to leave too, but the South Koreans, Japan and (secretly) the Chinese would rather they not. The only reason that fruitloop in NK isn't the "Fruitloop of all Korea" is because of the US troops there. When the US leaves, will you go guard their border for them?
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The only reason the US has not invaded North Korea yet is that South Korea is desperate to avoid an East German-style collapse. They fear that their economy would not be able to survive such an event.
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In the event of a war against NK, Kim Il Jong has enough artillery to flatten the SK capital and kill 10's of thousands.
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It's downright racist to think that somehow "we" (who have used the bomb and still have thousands available, and a new warfighting doctrine that explicitly allows their future "first use") can be trusted with The Bomb, while "they" (that "crazy" Stalinist Asian) can't be trusted.
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The US, for all its mistakes and even (if I may be so bold) sometimes selfish interests, is still a democracy. There is a big difference between a democracy getting nukes (funny, SK doensn't want them, why do you think that is?) and a petty dicator getting them. How is this a race issue? Lets get rid of all nukes, thats a great idea. How is KIJ getting nukes a good idea?
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if you want to know how silly it is for the US to think it can hold Afghanistan with 20,000 soldiers (or 100,000, for that matter), you need to read this book.
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Again, agree in practice if not principle. The US makes its mistake when it seeks to keep peace and bring stability. It should get in, kill the petty dictators then get out. But then, they would be critizised for not cleaning up after themselves. As usual, an impasse.
And how is this flaming? He said the US should keep its nose out of other nations affairs, then in the same rant said its wrong of the US to NOT go around NK's neighbors (as if they don't count!) and meet with him directly to discuss our surrender to his threats! This is inconsistent and unfair and illogical. Pointing that out is not a flame.