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Old November 19th, 2006, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Announcement from Tien Chi

A fine speach by a noble and powerful empire.

We do not argue that if we conquered the entire Tien Chi empire tomorrow, without losses and with the game situation exactly as it is now that we would likely succeed in bringing our form of peace to this world.

We wish we lived in the reality as described by Tien Chi's silver tongued leader, unfortunately the situation is a tad different.

Oni surrendered their lands to Tien Chi without a fight and instead sent their entire forces against Ulm. This allowed Tien Chi an easy assumption of power all the while seriously weakening ULM (their next target).

Where is Tien Chi's military loss in this conflict? Does their army graph ever dip? This turn I raided a few of their lands, how many provinces of ULM did he conquer (Again without significant loss, as the majority of Ulmish troops died to Oni's suicide). Check the oracles graphs! If we had not intervened Ulm wouldn't have lasted more then a few months in its weakened state. Even with our aid it will be a very tough battle vs. a huge empire with a MASSIVE gem income, varied magical mages and a HUGE income. Yes they have fewer provinces... If you want to double my income I will gladly trade away half of our lands.

How fast do you think Tien Chi's research is going to be once all those site searching mages start hitting the books?

Thinking late game: Do you want to fight against some W9 blessed Helherdings? OR Warriors of the Five elements with a W9 F9 bless, that is with 50% immunity to all elements. How hard would it be for a diverse magical nation such as Tien Chi to cast battlewide spells that brings this resistance up to 100% against all magic?? What will mighty Caelum when facing 50 shock and cold resistance troops. Your thunderstrikes which would devastate our army would be worthless!

Do you want to fight a somewhat limited magical nation with Helherdings vulnerable to magic attacks, or a diverse magical nation with an incredible gem income (and the ability to use them all) with magically immune troops and powerful sacred summons that can take advantage of this W9 F9 bless.

Frankly I WOULD consider this situation "Two scary nations who lead in the graphs tearing each other apart". IF we had not stepped in now, ULM would be completely overrun by Tien Chi. Then with a massive gem and gold income, access to magically immune highly skilled fighters and the skilled leadership they would be truly unstoppable. As it is they still might be... Oni's gift to Tien Chi was extremely powerful.

Before being swayed by words (mine or his) I would ask that you do consult the oracles and their recordings of what has happend in the land. What do Forts mean in term of mages? What do mages do with gems? Late game what is more dangerous a bunch of recruitable glamoured troops, or a nation fully loaded with gems with high research and the ability to field massive numbers of powerful mages?

We did not ask for our conflict with Vanheim and frankly were hurt when our honorable brothers incorrectly saw us as the #1 enemy. If Vanheim would like to end its hostilities against us we would welcome peace with them.
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