[Corwin]

Here is my respose to the recent letter from my noble Helheim opponent.

Maltrease said:
A fine speach by a noble and powerful empire.

We do not argue that if we conquered the entire Tien Chi empire tomorrow, without losses and with the game situation exactly as it is now that we would likely succeed in bringing our form of peace to this world.

We wish we lived in the reality as described by Tien Chi's silver tongued leader,

You will, in few turns. I was talking about 3-4 turns in the future, as I clearly stated in my letter. Once you bring your raiders and armies. In the mid and late game whoever has the best raiders usually wins. And it is common knowledge that Helhheim has by far the best raiders of all Nations and all Eras. You have both flying and cavalry sacred, both with your W9 bless of course.

Tien Chi has no raiders at all. That alone would make any serious war very difficult for me, unless side without raiders have overwhelming force, which is certainly not the case with my nation.

unfortunately the situation is a tad different.

Oni surrendered their lands to Tien Chi without a fight and instead sent their entire forces against Ulm. This allowed Tien Chi an easy assumption of power all the while seriously weakening ULM (their next target).

Not quite. Me and Yomi were fighting serious war, and he has killed a lot of my sacred troops in several battles. But than Ulm decided to interfere and get a piece of Yomi lands while Yomi was occupied with me. Prior to this both me and Yomi asked Ulm not to interfere in our 1 vs 1 war. (It was Yomi's request BTW, not mine, but I supported it). Ulm disregarded it and attacked Yomi anyway.

So naturally Yomi was more pissed at Ulm, who suddenly attacked him in the back, than he was at me, with whom he was fighting this fair 1 vs 1 war, as he asked me himself.

So when Yomi told me that he had a change of plans and would like to teach Ulm a lesson instead of letting him get his lands while he Yomi was fighting me, of course I didn't object to it - why would I??? Would you said - "No, fight me instead, and let Ulm take your lands?" I don't think so.


So your statement that I get Yomi land without losses or fighting is incorrect - prior to Ulm rude intervention there was all out battles and serious losses on my side. Most of my early game sacred died at this war.

(BTW I am not saying you are telling lies, I am sure you just didn't know it. You can ask Yomi if you like, but I am telling the truth)

Where is Tien Chi's military loss in this conflict? Does their army graph ever dip?

Oh c'mon! There were no military losses yet because there were no battles - you just attacked me this turn with your flying raiders deep in my territory. You have destroyed all uncastled temples that I had in my empire , and you have got some of my best provinces. But that's just a beginning.

You do not even have a border with me yet, so no major battles were possible this turn. You will get border in 1 turn though - don't think I can't see the path your glamour troops are cutting through Ulm territory toward the heart of my empire.

This turn I raided a few of their lands, how many provinces of ULM did he conquer (Again without significant loss, as the majority of Ulmish troops died to Oni's suicide).

Again, not entirely correct - Ulm has suffered no losses with me so far. I didn't fight his troops yet - they all retreated to his castle and to his 3 big armies. The only military losses so far in this war were on my side where his PD beat me back (it was stronger than I expected). But that's nothing.

Check the oracles graphs! If we had not intervened Ulm wouldn't have lasted more then a few months in its weakened state.

And how many turns Vanheim will last against *your* empire? At least Ulm still has large army to protect his territory. Vanheim has almost no army. Frankly I wouldn't really use this argument if I would be you.

Even with our aid it will be a very tough battle vs. a huge empire with a MASSIVE gem income, varied magical mages and a HUGE income.

Ha! Have you seen the graphs lately? Your income is actually HIGHER than mine now. Which makes it what- "SUPER-HUGE"? Your gem income will also be higher than mine soon, since you'll continue your raids, and you will certainly do it on much larger scale that this first turn.

Most importantly - without research my gem income and mages are useless, as you well know. And my research sucks, and will continue to suck for the rest of the game, unfortunately. I made a mistake with scales by taking drain with Tien Chi. <sigh> ;(

How fast do you think Tien Chi's research is going to be once all those site searching mages start hitting the books?

Wrong again. They already did last turn. I only has 3 low level mages searching. What you see on the graphs is the best research ALL my mages can do.

Thinking late game: Do you want to fight against some W9 blessed Helherdings? OR Warriors of the Five elements with a W9 F9 bless, that is with 50% immunity to all elements.

Now you are definitely kidding. I will trade you 4 of my W5E for each of your heldrings, and you would be fool to accept such deal. W5E are VERY fragile. You don't need magic to kill them - a group indep archer will destroy them all without breaking a sweat. They die in melee 10 times more easy than herdlings, since they have much lower defense, lower protection, do not have shields, and do not have glamour. Finally they are neither stealthy not flying, so they can't raid. (which is huge factor)


Trying to convince people that W5E are more scary than heldrots is not going to fly for anybody familiar with Helheim. Helheim sacred are the best by far, to the point of being considered overpowered. While W5E are quite good with double bless, they are not uber by any means, and they die easely. Plus I am not sure why you keep calling them them magically immune - 50% resistance is not immunity. As I said – I would gladly trade my w5E for your heldrots at proportion 5:1, and I am not extravagating.




Anyway, the bottom line is I never said "I am suffering the terrible losses, look at me!". But I am well familiar with Helheim and with the current situation in our game to see what will happen in the next few turns.

What I said is " There is no possible way I can fight number one nation (Helheim) with his ally and prevent them from overrunning my Empire. So they are going to win this war and get my land as well as land of Vanheim. And once you add Tien Chi and Vanheim territory to your own, you will win the game. You have admitted it yourself in your post.

And we both know that it will happen, if this war will continue and other nations will not interfere.

Geya, Lord of Tien Chi