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HoneyBadger said:
So, since the experienced players and regulars with more posts than me seem to agree that Tien Ch'i generally and Spring and Autumn in particular is one of the weakest, sorries, no hope nations out there, I spent today playing them vs Helheim, again on their terms, on land, with a high-bless strategy (in this case D10/B9/F4), vs Helheim W9/F9 Father of Winters Dom10, Order3, Magic -2, Cold1 etc as recommended in an above post.
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Tien chi *what*? Who told you that? I am playing EA Tien Chi in our forum game, and my main arch enemy is Helheim. (who is played by very good player BTW). Just this turn I've smashed 300 strong army of Helheim which included a lot of sacred, using 200 strong army of my own, and Helheim is currently losing the war. (granted, it's not 1 vs 1 war since Helheim was allied with Ulm, and I was allied with Caelum. However this was the first real battle that Helheim fought in our war, and Helheim has been preparing for this battle for many turns. And before the war started Helheim was by far the most powerful nation on all graphes except one - they hold almost twice as many provinces as nation number two for example).
Perhaps you are confusing Dom2 S&A Tien Chi with Dom3 EA Tien Chi? In Dom2 S&A Tien Chi was pathetic, it's true. In dom3 they can be quite strong nation, if played right. Sure, their sacred are not nearly as strong as Hehleim's sacred, and would lose 1 vs 1 short blitz. But they are very far from "the weakest, sorries, no hope nation out there", as you put it.
Seriously, I would realy recommend you to play some MP. Your conclusions of nations strengths and weaknesses based upon your SP experience are often very far from reality when it comes to MP. Humans plays very differntly from AIs.