[HoneyBadger]

My point-which got out of hand and went badly (but I don't think boringly) off-topic-is that Van and Hel have weaknesses which can be exploited by an experienced player. And so I suggest: 1-if you want to beat Van, learn how to beat Van, and 2-if you don't think there's a good way to beat Van, petition for more lines of strategy, quite a few of which I suggested up there in the thread not too far back. This is after all a game of strategy, and in war all is fair. If you think this or any other computer or board game is a comprehensive strategy simulation, I direct you to Sun Tzu's the Art of War and Caesar's campain in Gaul, for starters.