still here, lurking in backround, really, been busy re-doing my kitchen, down bath, etc, ugh, just haven't had time other then a quick read here and there, and of course the re-model won't be ready for xmas, don't even have a tree yet, let along finish xmas shoping. I have Civ 3 on my list along with EU2 and SE4 Gold. Busy time of year.
just some ideas mac