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Old February 17th, 2007, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: ME262 wrong guns?

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chuckfourth said:
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I would suggest that the guns in question (weapons 207 208 209 and 168/169) have their HE pen and HE kill set ot 0 and the correct sabot values added making them the tank busters they should be,

You ran one test with one weapon and think you've got this all figured out but you don't. "Sabot" is only available to weapons used in weapon slot one so your ju-88 test worked just dandy becasue in that case that weapon is used in slot 1

Please look at this list

users of weapon ID 207 3.7cm BKannon:
120 - Ju 87G-1 Stuka : Slot 2 dates: 06/43-12/46
234 - Ju 88P-2 : Slot 1 dates: 09/43-12/46
234 - Ju 88P-2 : Slot 2 dates: 09/43-12/46

users of weapon ID 208 5cm Bord Kannon:
235 - Ju 88P-4 : Slot 1 dates: 09/43-12/46
902 - Me 410A-1/U-4 : Slot 1 dates: 09/43-12/45

users of weapon ID 209 7.5cm BKannon:
129 - Hs 129 B-3/Wa : Slot 3 dates: 05/44-12/46
233 - Ju 88P-1 : Slot 1 dates: 09/43-12/46

users of weapon ID 168 30mm MK-108:
122 - Bf 109G-2/R1 : Slot 3 dates: 03/43-12/46
124 - Me 262A-2a : Slot 1 dates: 10/44-12/46
124 - Me 262A-2a : Slot 2 dates: 10/44-12/46
237 - Fw 190F-8 : Slot 3 dates: 09/44-12/46
243 - Fw 190 D-12 : Slot 2 dates: 01/45-12/46
898 - Bf 110NF : Slot 3 dates: 01/41-12/45

users of weapon ID 169 30mm MK-101:
128 - Hs 129 B-1 : Slot 3 dates: 03/43-12/46

There are 12 different aircraft on that list of the weapons you wanted changed ( two aircraft use the same weapon in two different slots) . 5 use those weapons as first slot weapon and 7 do not so if anyone just trotted off and made that change you suggested nearly 60% of those aircraft would have useless guns. Totally and utterly USELESS guns. You should have tested that. You've had over 12 weeks since you posted that "test" and if your recommendations were followed any aircraft using those weapons in any slot other than weapon slot one is not even " firing plasticine" they are firing air becasue the game needs to see sabot ammo in the SABOT ammo slot to fire SABOT AMMO and there is no such ammo slot for weapons 2, 3 and 4.......is there ? So what would those guns be firing ??

NOW do you understand why we don't use SABOT ammo for aircraft or anything else except a main weapon ?

OK, what's "plan B" ??

Don
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