[chuckfourth]

Hi Narwan
Are you telling me the AP round range for a 20mm round is less than 2000m? surely not. In any case what you are saying is interesting enough but not particularily relevant to my argument, here it is in summary.

Here is a quote from Don
"Does this mean they (12.7mm) get a longer than is likely normal direct fire range ?
Yes."
So we have already established that 2000m is too long a range for direct fire for 12.7 13.2 and 15mm HMG
Why? because they are firing over open iron sights which dont work much past 1200, see the second post in the thread.

So, unless a telescopic sight is fitted all 12.7mm & co weapons firing direct should have a 1500m range.

except

Tripod mounted HMGs can fire indirect, so to allow for this they have the 2000m range as this is independant of the iron sights, fair enough.
But... under 2000m 7.62mm HMGs can also easily indirect fire to 2000m so they should also have a range of 2000m because they also are tripod mounfed HMGs. In any case under 2000m there is no reason to dirrerentiate between the 7.62 and 12.7 calibres for indirect fire range.

Lastly there is a whole swag of weapons in the 12.7mm category that arent on tripods and so cant fire indirect, and so should only have 1500m range, but have the 2000m range. Ive listed most of them above.
Sounds sensibe to me anyway.
Im sure you realise this but of course but when you say these weapons fire HE you mean they fire solid shot and have an in-game HE rating.
Also I have a question for you,
If the 15mm is firing solid shot and 20mm AP is solid shot shouldnt the 20mm then have at least as good a range as the 15mm and dont worry that the 20mm HE shot can go either further?
Best Chuck.