Nighty night Growltigga, just remember, They say you usually dream of things said or done during the day, soooooo, look out for the "circle the wagon" or better known as the "Gryphin Position", let alone what you saw on his websight..
Quickngruvn, you will have to ask The Gryphin, like Growltigga said, he started it.....
I don't know if the studious facilitating of scientific research for the betterment of humanity with the discovery of a new, ahhhh, ummm,
field for study like the "Gryphin Position", would be considered "in the gutter"
"Science must go foreward"
just some ideas mac
[ 18 January 2002: Message edited by: mac5732 ]