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Old June 17th, 2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Honesty doesn\'t pay :(

No, he doesn't win so much as everyone gets bored of him continuing to say the same things over and over in the face of clear contradiction; giving all appearences of not fully reading what he responds to. Here, let me show you:

He posted this (among other stuff)
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Imperator Fyron said:
It is not clear to me why you are asserting I put words in your mouth, since I didn't do so.
with a timestamp of 06/16/07 10:07 AM.

In response to a post of mine, timestamp 06/16/07 08:59 AM where I said (among other things)
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Jack Simth said:
Oh, and I didn't use the term "jailed". Quit putting words in my mouth; it's not polite.

Having very recently quoted a a portion of a post of his, timestamp 06/16/07 01:30 AM, which included (again, among other things - I'm trying to boil it down to just a single, highly specific point for ease of reading, and in the process cutting out a lot of stuff not directly relevant to the analysis of the tactic used in the specific example)
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Imperator Fyron said:
You further compound the problem by asserting that 1% of all non-criminals are jailed;
When he'd been responding to my initial post on this topic, timestamp 06/15/07 09:27 PM, where I never once used the term "jailed" - Narf did. Yet Fyron very explicitly stated that I asserted "that 1% of all non-criminals are jailed" (Emphasis added). There's plenty of other examples in the discussion above if you want to look for them; I'm not going to spoon-feed them out further, but that one is easily demonstrated, if merely picking nits in and of itself (choice of terms).

There is no point in debating against people who use such tactics - any argument will effectively fall on deaf ears - they either don't hear, ignore, or don't understand the actual arguments used. But they "win" because most people don't examine the "debate" closely enough to realize what happened, and understand why the other person stopped responding.

It took me a while to figure out why I didn't like Fyron's posts. Sometimes emotional gut reactions get there faster than reason. Now I'm there by way of reason, too.
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