[CUnknown]

Well, Tir still has a number of provinces. He could recover, I think, if Atlantis was totally evil and decided to backstab me before I could finish him off. (That would be so cool!) But, maybe it's best if he just gobbles up Tir's remaining provinces along with me. In that case, me (Ulm) and Atlantis would have a lead over the rest of the players.

But, I don't know, despite the beating you two up (Giants, Pangea) north have been dishing out to each other, I think you are both still competitive. And who knows about Helheim, I mean how long has he had Forge of the Ancients active?? That is usually considered a game-winner, right?

Does anyone know how Ctis is doing?